Posts by hanslse

I dont know if you are still developing pigeos? One wish from me would be to add an option to boot to dos prompt in DOSBox directly, if possible?

I had an issue with the graphics driver in my pi and the 7 inch screen and the 800x480 resolution. It is impossible to edit the geos.ini to resolve the issue as geos.ini is embedded in the hdd-img file. However, I managed to resolve it by adding a monitor that supported the default 1024x768 and the wanted 800x480, so everything works now at viable speed.

As a sidenote, I prefer to have a folder mapped as a drive, as this folder is accessable in unix (pi os) and as a drive in DOSBox. I understand that there is advantages to have a image file to avoid file corruption. Just my point of view

The file .pigeos looks correct and just as you describe. The first line is there and in place.

Okay, I will check it

Hi Tomas,

First I need to give you an apology regarding Pi/GEOS. The 1.1 version works well on my Pi3B with CI-latest. I must have been dabbling with one of the previous versions, when I got the performance issues. I will use this version of Pi/GEOS on my Pi, and skip the DOSBox version.

I also tried to install a Geosworks 1.2 installation, but get an error message in Pi OS. Below is the screen shot.

I have also noticed when I exit the menu, I need to press ctrl+esc to exit and then ctrl+c multiple times to get to the cli mode (terminal or prompt or whatever one calls it).

Quote from Jirka Kunze

Hallo,

ist es wirklich sinnvoll mehr und mehr Fonts in die Distribution aufzunehmen?

Ich würde hier eher dem Minimalprinzip folgen und die Anzahl der Fonts begrenzen und weitere Fonts als nachinstallierbare Pakete vorhalten.

Im originalen GEOS/BBX waren 10 Vektorfonts enthalten (davon 1 Symbolfont) das sollte doch als Grundausstattung genügen oder? So ist mir der Sinn der Fonts MarVoSym oder z003 in der Distribution nicht klar. Diese Fonts gehören aus meiner Sicht in Pakete die der Nutzer bei Bedarf installieren kann.

Ich hatte damit begonnen das FontData Verzeichnis etwas aufzuräumen und eine Übersicht über die Fonts die in der Distribution enthalten sind zu erstellen und damit auch Dateien die in diesem Verzeichnis liegen zusammenzufassen (info.txt, HINTING.txt usw.) oder zu ersetzen um damit eine Basis für die Dokumentation der Fonts zu schaffen. Das sollte dann etwa so aussehen: https://github.com/jirkakunze/pcg…ont_overview.md Ich denke es ist wichtig eine solche Übersicht zu haben und diese überschaubar und aktuell zu halten.

Mein Vorschlag wäre sich zunächst auf die Fonts zu konzentrieren die wirklich in die Distribution sollen (Beispiel: der Font NYTFranklin in der Distribution ist noch unvollständig und hat die falsche Gewichtung).

JIrka

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Sounds very good. Typographically speaking it should be enough with a mono, roman, sans and symbol font set, but I guess that is considered to be too meager, I support the thought to adapt to the traditional Ensemble font set of 10 font with symbol font set.

Is it possible to create a tool, like "Font Converter", that adapts the TTF fonts to Geos, or is this a manual craft for every font? My thought is if it is possible, then people can choose the fonts themselves and adapt it to Geos, and the manhours can be spent more wisely, than converting each and every font users ask for. I think I asked this previuosly, but I did not understand the answer.

Great job, Jirka!

Quote from hanslse

I have installed the DOSBox you directed me to above, in a 32 bit raspberry pi os lite (bullseye). Cant get Geos to work in 800x480, is there special settings in DOSBox and pi os?

Ignore this, I found the error! An update of DOSBox overwrite the DOSBox you sent the link to. After reinstalling the DOSBox, now 800x480 works!!!

Many.thanks, Tomas!!!

Quote from t.hass

Pi/GEOS does still supports 800x480 resolution in DOSBox. Just checked it using the latest GEOS CI-release. If you don't like Pi/GEOS you may want to give the version of DOSBox that shipped with it a try: https://thobipix.de/download/rpi/p….74.6_armhf.deb

Please note that this is for 32bit PiOS (armhf) only and has been build on Debian 10 based legacy release.

I have installed the DOSBox you directed me to above, in a 32 bit raspberry pi os lite (bullseye). Cant get Geos to work in 800x480, is there special settings in DOSBox and pi os?

I can add that even Basebox is running slooow on a Pi3B. My guess is that the PiOS Bookworm is the main cause. RPi3B is rather old, better to get a Pi4 or 5 and the new 15 inch monitor

Yes, I noted that I have to build another flash with 32-bit pi os, if I use the DOSBox

Nothing wrong with PiGeos, except that I got some performance problems with my Pi 3B and PiGeos. The problem is the Pi 3B, too weak hardware platform, the performance was sluggish when I tested PiGeos. However, I might have done something wrong?

The best performance I have got is Pi OS lite (Bookworm 64 bit) and DOSBox 0.74-3. This combo run as expected with good performance. Why am I so pesistant in this, I can just toss away the 3B and by a 4 or even better? The thing is that I have a complete computer, 3B in a shell with a monitor, and the computer is not upgradeable

But I will give it another shot. Thanks for the link to DOSBox, will try it if PiGeos will not work as expected.

The problem is the lack of support for different VESA modes in DOSBox in general, this also applies to Basebox, which Falk have plan to solve in Basebox. Scitech Display Doctor, version 6.53, works in DOSBox and adds more resolutions, however onlyn 4:3 and 5:4 resolutions. The only 16:9 resolution which is available in DOSBox is 848x480. Other more modern like 800x480 and 1024x600 is not available, at least at the moment. 848x480 have been omitted from DOSBox Staging/Basebox.

Quote from Bario

Yeah, I tend to be more interested in PC when it's not a problem. Locke is welcome to have the scanner. I'd just like to have a look at how scanning works under PC/GEOS. So we can try that out at the next meeting!?

Great! Yes, we can try it at the next meeting. I will also bring keyboard and mouse. Maybe I have a 17 inch lcd monitor, too. It depends in if I can carry it? Btw, the computer have a SB16 sound card, too.

Quote from Lockesoft

Yes, i mean the scanner-

Great!

Quote from Bario

Good morning Hans. I would be interested in this old technology. I'm still annoyed that I haven't kept any of the PCs from my childhood. So I don't have a PC with ISA slots. So if no one else wants it, I'd be very happy to take it. Something like that should never be thrown away.

Do you want the PC? No scanner? I can give you the PC, and Lockesoft the scanner. The PC is a Pentium Ii with isa slots, pci slots and one AGP slot. Motherboard is an Acer AP53, with renovated capacitors in the power section, still working and good to go.

Quote from Lockesoft

I think, It can work with my "Global PC".

if no One Else want it i couldt take IT.

Wie immer nochmal in Deutsch. 😄

Ich denke der könnte mit meinem "Global PC" zusammen arbeiten. Wenn den sonst keiner will könnte ich den nehmen.

You mean the scanner?

Quote from Achim

Sorry, I have no usage for all those things.

Okay, I understand, no problem.

Quote from Achim

Hello Hans.

Unfortunately I have no PC who is old enaugh for that scanner.

I can give you that PC, too, if you want

Noone? If not, it goes into the dump.

Hello!

I have an Agfa SnapScan 310, left over. I will donate it for free to the first person who wants it. Included are termination, data cable, power cable, isa controller card, and Geos software. The plan is to deliver it at the next meeting in November, as it is too fragile to pack and send. If a PC or motherboard with isa slots is needed, that can be included, too, in the offer. The motherboard is working, no problem.

Who wants it?

Well, it.is possible to revert back from wayland to x11, and run the resolution in a window. I have found an earlier discussion here with Tomas Hass. But, there are new way to handle the monitor in bookworm, it checks the monitor resolution so it is not extended beyond 800x480. If so, an irritating error message is displayed. Using the window way to solve the resolution affects also other DOS apps, if you using anything else that Geos. So the only proper way to solve it properly is to have a 800x480 resolution in DOSBox. I have also noticed a phenomenum in DOSBox, if you set the screen to 800x480, it actually shrinks the screen image a little bit, compared to use the setting =desktop, and let DOSBox "determine" the actual surface. I have decided to stick with the 640x480x64k resolution, it is the least bad thing in my setup, as it plays well with my DOS apps and games. I have also noticed a bug in the keyboard handling, which was solvable by remapping the actual keys in the keyboard mapping in DOSBox. I will check if the bug is in Basebox, too, and solveable in the same way. Consider the resolution thing solved, for the time being.